Most people will never own, drive, or even sit inside a Ferrari Luce. (If you can, or do… hit us up.) There’s still no question that Ferrari’s first electric vehicle is one of the most interesting, surprising cars of the year. With a decidedly un-Ferrari look, and lots of new technology and designs courtesy of Sir Jony Ive, the Luce is a lot of big ideas in a single swoopy package. A lot of people really hate it.Verge subscribers, don’t forget you get exclusive access to ad-free Vergecast wherever you get your podcasts. Head here. Not a subscriber? You can sign up here.On this episode of The Vergecast, we talk a lot about the Luce. David and Nilay discuss whether Jony Ive’s design ideas got out of hand, why Ferrari seemed so desperate to run away from its legacy, and whether some of the interface and technology ideas here could trickle down to more affordable cars. And they discuss the question increasingly facing carmakers all over the US: Do people actually want electric cars?AdvertisementAdvertisementAfter that, the hosts talk through some AI news and all the ways in which consumers continue to show their distaste for all things AI. As Google gets deeper into AI Mode, its competitors are growing simply by staying away. As YouTube gives creators more AI tools to play with, it’s also labeling AI content more clearly so audiences can stay away. Pope Leo has been reminding the world that actually, yes, humans are important even in an AI age. AI is increasingly pervasive and increasingly unpopular — which side will give first?Finally, in the lightning round, it’s time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, Meta’s new subscription tiers, Sony’s exciting new TV tech, and an update on the incredible rising price of everything. Everything’s too expensive, and it’s not getting better anytime soon.Subscribe: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Overcast | Pocket Casts | MoreIf you want to know more about everything we discuss in this episode, here are some links to get you started:AdvertisementAdvertisementFerrari reveals its first EV, with design help from Jony Ive Jony Ive’s Ferrari looks nothing like a Ferrari This Ferrari should have been a VolkswagenPeople sure do hate Google’s AI Search updates.YouTube is putting AI labels where you’ll actually see themPope Leo warns of the risks of AI in major papal documentUber president says AI spending is getting ‘harder to justify’ Facebook launches a ‘Plus’ subscription that gives you extra featuresSony’s first RGB TV is a statement piece Valve raises Steam Deck prices by more than $200The golden age of handheld gaming is already over